Tommy Dreamer On Why He Chose Not To Work For Stephanie McMahon



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Tommy Dreamer was a recent guest on Why you broke up with Robbie E podcast. Dreamer opened a number of topics, including the ECW invasion, the time ECW stars saved a group of kids from a bus crash, why he chose not to work with Stephanie McMahon and why he left WWE.

In the ECW Invasion:

WWE was talking to me. That weekend I did two shows for Dusty Rhodes for his Turnbuckle Championship Wrestling and then I flew to Buffalo to do an ECW reunion show I was running. It was on a Sunday and on that flight when I landed in Buffalo, I was told I would be on RAW and then I had to fly back to Atlanta and the whole time we were driving, Dusty was like, "Are you cheating on me about going to WWE?" I was like, "Dude, I do not know anything. [Jim Ross] called me, but I did not hear. This has been happening for a long time. "I discovered Sunday before I went there and he said," Nicole calls you? "That was the desk and they changed my trip … they're like" Do not worry we flew from Buffalo to Atlanta, Atlanta to La Guardia. "I found out the night before. I agree it was one of the best RAWs because we shocked the world. They never saw it coming. I loved it and remembered it well before leaving, Rob Van Dam was doing those quick things he does and he says, "Dude, are you nervous?" And I replied, "No." Yeah, I do not either. Then I'll: Dude, I really wanted Louie Spicolli to be alive because he would be standing out and the first guy to call us. Kane was in the ring as: Go! Go! "We were talking like that and we hit the ring, so I worked on it and worked the next night. I did not even have a contract.

About the meaning of his father see him fight:

My other favorite part is that my dad was losing his sight and he had eye surgery. He had glaucoma and had eye surgery and had 20/20 vision for the first time in his life for three weeks and during those three weeks, it was when I debuted for WWE and he was able to see it without glasses. He later lost sight in his left eye and he only had 10% vision (or spot vision) in his right eye. He actually went into his eyes and lost his sight completely, but for him to see it – my father was who put me in the fight and he supported me throughout my career, took me to WrestleMania myself – for me it was one of my favorite achievements in my career. Fighting in Madison Square Garden with him and my uncle in the audience and then buying a house for them was one of my favorite things.

In Jim Ross:

I will always credit Jim Ross as the only boss to ever lie to me and he said, "Do not worry." I actually fought without a contract for about a month, which is a little stupid in my name because God got me wounded or anything, there was nothing else out there.

In saving children from a bus accident:

If you want to hear a cool story that no one knows, I, Bill DeMott and Stevie Richards, were coming back from the gym and the school bus is driving strangely and the school bus pulls off the road … hits the curb, hits a electric bill and turns sideways with a bunch of kids … A school bus tosses aside with an electric survey firing. Me, Stevie and Bill DeMott jumped and the bus thing back does not open. The driver had a stroke or a heart attack and with the electric thing firing – without any flaw – Bill DeMott went up all the way and we started pulling the kids out of this bus as the electric wires are going everywhere and we threw everyone on the bus. We were like real-life superheroes … kids were being saved from being on fire or being electrocuted.

Behind the Scenes of WWE Politics:

There was very little policy on ECW. Political games hit the moment you get there in WWE and of course you want to be successful and why you want to succeed is money. Would I love to be champion? Yes, but that did not happen. There were a few jerks on the table. I should do 2-3 pay-per-views with Triple H and that did not work out. I should be at one point tag team champions with Rob Van Dam and that did not work out. It was not in the cards and you know why? Because wrestling is fake and you're as good as anyone wants you to be, so that's fine. I do not regret anything I did and that's why my career has not ended and I'm going to fight 206 shows this year.

In the heat of the backstage of Raven in WWE:

Have you met Raven yet? Raven was very hot then. He would be himself and he would also request it. He was, at one point, not allowed to speak in the WWE locker room for two months. He had to go to the fighter block and the only time he was allowed to speak was when he was able to pass his games and if he was caught talking, his sentence would double, so he spent a month, maybe two months without speaking . Very funny. Time for him, but he sort of dug his own grave.

On whether he liked working behind the scenes:

I do not think many people realize that I was 29 when ECW went bankrupt and I gave my twenty years to ECW and now I'm in my early thirties and they're telling me they want to retire and work in the office. I was not happy with this position, but my wife at the time was pregnant with our twins and there was wrestling going on elsewhere, so she went to get a job or you're going to be unemployed. Cool of it and learned a lot from my time in the office and learned the politics. I learned a lot from Vince [McMahon] and I learned a lot from John Laurinaitis, almost like playing the game even though I did not like it, but yes and it really helped me in my second run in the company. I have to see both sides of every story, because idiot fighters … are always like "It's the office against me. We're always against them," when that's not always the case, because nobody wants to look in the mirror and say, "Maybe it's I. Should I be champion? I should be heavyweight champion," but then you think about it, how can you be heavyweight champion when they sing to another company called ECW Or how can you be a champion when you wear a T-shirt and the boss likes muscular guys No one wants to say these things People just want to blame others for the lack of a jerk That's why I did a lot of soul searching and I learned I also discovered that WWE wanted me in the office from day one.

(Credit transcript: Michael McClead, WrestleZone)

There's more on the next page, including the Dreamer version of WWE's ECW, why he chose not to work with Stephanie McMahon and why he left WWE.

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